Regular readers and RadioOrNot.com listeners know at least three things about me:
1. I love posting letters to the editor, because our voices matter.
2. I resent anti-vaxxers with the passion of eleventy billion white hot suns.
3. I do not tolerate idiocy well, if at all.
For those of you who may have missed this post, please give it a read. I’ll wait: My doctor’s kickass LA Times letter: “Ignorance cannot dictate public health.”
Are you back already? Good, now check out this L.A. Times letter to the editor:
My child is a student at Waldorf School of Orange County, and it’s unbelievable that 41% of kindergartners started the school year unvaccinated. Just recently a Waldorf parent told me that no one is talking about the measles epidemic — not one conversation. (“Once easily recognized, signs of measles now elude young doctors,” Jan. 26)
Maybe as a society we value a dog’s life more than a human life.
All dogs in California that are 4 months or older are legally required to be vaccinated for rabies. A law enacted in 2011 allows an exemption for the rabies shot if the dog has existing medical conditions that would further deteriorate its health but requires that the animal be confined to the owner’s home or be kept on a short leash when away from home.
In contrast, a parent of a human child may sign a paper claiming a belief exemption from all vaccinations. Wow.
Gina Piazza, Costa Mesa
Kevin has been banned.
Here is just one example of US Government instituted fraud concerning vaccines:
Vaccine Fraud: U.S. Mainstream Media Censors Whistleblower’s Explosive Story
‘the CDC took deliberate action to retroactively alter the outcome of the autism study by
arbitrarily eliminating most subjects from the study, thereby shrinking the sample size to a small data set which would not achieve statistical significance. This is a clear and irrefutable case of scientific fraud.This fraud allowed CDC scientists such as Colleen Boyle to testify before Congress that there was “no credible link” between MMR vaccines and autism.’
http://www.globalresearch.ca/vaccine-fraud-u-s-mainstream-media-censors-whistleblowers-explosive-story/5397607
Good lord, autism? Really? You’re going there? Completely discredited. Go away, Kevin. I’m sure someone with measles would be happy to have you over for dinner. Or have you been vaccinated?
Time to ban you. I’ve tolerated your comments for years, but no longer.
Take your conspiracy theories, fear-mongering, and nasty remarks somewhere far, far away.
Hey GottaLaff,
You imply anti-vaxxers are idiots. Why do you get to call people names? Why the hypocrisy? Besides, I did not directly call anyone names.
It is not completely idiotic to trust the same people who claim GMOs and
factory farmed junk foods are safe? They also claim we are not being
irradiated by Fukushima, and they have increased the allowable amount of
toxins in our water and air.
Meanwhile, the Vaccine Industrial Complex has legally bribed Congress into passing a law that prohibits people from suing for damages caused by harmful vaccines, because too many people were winning court cases.
The fact is, many vaccines are not safe, and other vaccines do not work. Of course, cognitive dissonance obscures this reality.
I didn’t go into comments and say, “You’re an idiot.” My post is commentary, commentary in which I called nobody an idiot. I said I do not tolerate idiocy… and it was clear that I meant the irrational fear of vaccines that work, and the dire consequences of shunning them. You don’t like it, go elsewhere.
As for your comment, I agree with some of it. But that doesn’t address the fact that vaccines have helped eradicate diseases worldwide, and when they’re stopped, the diseases resume.
How ironic that you do not tolerate idiocy, since you must tolerate your own idiocy.
It is completely idiotic to trust the same people who claim GMOs and factory farmed junk foods are safe. They also claim we are not being irradiated by Fukushima, and have increased the allowable amount of toxins in our water and air.
Meanwhile, the Vaccine Industrial Complex has legally bribed Congress into passing a law that prohibits people from suing for damages caused by harmful vaccines, because too many people were winning court cases.
The fact is, many vaccines are not safe, and other vaccines do not work.
Hey Kevin, guess what? Just like at TPC, we don’t allow name-calling in comments here. Your comment is deleted. One more like that and you’re banned. Now go play somewhere else.
I’m glad I missed Kevin.
Psst! Nobody misses Kevin.
Hah …. 🙂
Can’t believe how many people are so unaware of the auto-immune disorder and allergy issues with vaccines.
The chances of dying of measles is way higher than any problem with the vaccine.
I sure wish you could provide citation, quantify, prove, provide evidence… but no one can and hence the questions some of us have. I repeat again, no one ever said that more people weren’t saved than were harmed but no one knows.
Google it. This took me seconds to dig up: http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/popsci-guide-anti-vaccine-claims There are links within this article, too.
As for “evidence”… not sure how you don’t see that not vaccinating kids against measles has caused this outbreak, the worst in decades. If that’s not evidence, not sure what is.
Need more? http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/misconceptions-about-vaccines
http://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/why-vaccinate
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/vaccines-work-period/
And those are just a few that I spotted after literally seconds of Googling “evidence that childhood vaccinations work” and other similar searches.
If you get past the fear-mongering and ignorance by quacks and misinformed, needlessly panic-stricken anti-vaxxers and read what the majority of scientists and doctors say, you’ll get your evidence.
This is from American Academy of Pediatrics:
“Research has been conducted on all of these topics, and the studies continue to find vaccines to
be a safe and effective way to prevent serious disease. This document lists those studies and
provides links to the publications to allow parents and all those who administer or recommend
vaccines to read the evidence for themselves. These studies do not show any link between autism
and MMR vaccine, thimerosal, multiple vaccines given at once, fevers or seizures. This is not an
exhaustive list- vaccine safety studies are constantly being conducted and published and may not
be reflected here.”
Here is their 20 pages of links to studies and research on the subject …
https://www2.aap.org/immunization/families/faq/vaccinestudies.pdf
notice the Summaries and Author conclusions on every single one .. show NO Correlation between MMR vaccines and autism, developmental disorders, etc … and again as the AAP points out:
“This is not an exhaustive list- vaccine safety studies are constantly being conducted and published and may not be reflected here.”
Thank you RS… But of course, anti-vaxxers think these are all lies by evil doctors and Big Pharma to get us to pay our $$ to be poisoned. The fact that some diseases have been eradicated while others are kept at bay, that being vaccinated saves our lives and our children’s lives and their friends’ lives, is apparently irrelevant.
http://www.latimes.com/opinion/readersreact/la-le-0201-sunday-vaccines-20150201-story.html …. A letter from a dr. in response to “Historian Elena Conis takes a look at decades of vaccination skepticism,” Op-Ed, Jan. 27):
One letter writer blames vaccine skepticism on what he depicts as well-earned distrust of the medical community.
On the contrary, I believe this distrust is based on the widespread mythology that in the “good old days” — before chemical food additives, genetically modified food, insecticides and air pollution, and with freedom from vaccinations except for smallpox — people lived natural lives and thrived in good health.
The facts contradict this utopian picture.
In 1900, before all these modern interventions, American life expectancy was 47 years. Thanks to medical progress, and in spite of modern hazards, our life expectancy has now increased to nearly 80 years.
The medical community is not perfect, but instead of receiving credit for this increase in life span, modern medicine is distrusted as tampering with intrinsically good, natural processes.
Cyril Barnert, MD, Los Angeles
“The fact that some diseases have been eradicated while others are kept at bay, that being vaccinated saves our lives and our children’s lives and their friends’ lives, is apparently irrelevant.” <= EXACTLY the problem. Total denial of not only the hard science .. but the generations of empirical evidence, observation, and generational success …
Bam!
I remember reading that Veterinarians never allowed Thimerasol in dog and cat vaccines. The huge rise in child developmental disabilities and childhood diseases are very real. Parents should research the healthiest practices for themselves. If the measle vaccine protected people from the measles then anyone vaccinated wouldn’t get it but some children who have been vaccinated still get it.
The chance of getting measles is much much lower if you’re vaccinated. Drs recommend re-vaccination if it’s been many years since last vax. Any vaccination can fail, but without them, there are epidemics and pandemics. With them, diseases have been virtually eradicated.
“…eleventy billion white hot suns.” Ditto … maybe add more zeros.
41% of kindergartners started the school year unvaccinated. WTF? WTF? WTF? What is this BS nonsense. BELIEF EXEMPTIONS?????? What happened to NOT being allowed in school unless you had your vaccinations? Hey .. the fucking 12th century called and it wants its Morons back. SMFH.
How are you getting back to the 12th century? Is there room to take some of your friends with you? That’d be eleventy billion shades of awesome if you could.
Phildum, if you came here to troll, you’re in the wrong place. You might want to do some research about how effective vaccines are, and what happens when we ignore them. The recent measles outbreak is proof of that.
So much misinformation out there, too.
Agree completely .. ridiculous.
Have you read the other comments in this thread? Sigh.
Yes .. sadly. And your perfect response => “Any vaccination can fail, but without them, there are epidemics and pandemics. With them, diseases have been virtually eradicated.” <= EXACTLY …
Good link, thanks!
Here’s what happens when you don’t vaccinate
List of epidemics
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_epidemics
Ben Carson was a world-class Neurosurgeon. Ted Cruz was a Rhodes Scholar. both Summa Cum Looney. However, As Yoda would say, not intelligence, line dividing, authoritarian it is. ;>
quite a world, considering the people who sign the belief exemption probably never passed an advanced high school math or science class. anyone want to venture a guess as to the average IQ of these parents? under 100 is mine.
Actually, in CA, most are from well to do areas, highly educated. Sigh.
x10 sigh. OMG.