CIA Whistleblower John Kiriakou joins us today to talk about outing the US’ torture program, as he wrote about in his first book, The Reluctant Spy: My Secret Life in the CIA’s War on Terror, and his time in prison, that’s detailed in his page-turner new book, Doing Time Like a Spy: How the CIA Taught Me to Survive and Thrive in Prison. 

Plus, I shared some words of wisdom in the form of an editorial from Germany’s paper of record Der Spiegel that this country should heed.