If you’re feeling nauseous right now, that’s to be expected and you’re not alone. Today, exactly one week after proclaiming it “liberation day” and a week of saying he wouldn’t back down, the orange one pulled a 180 and said “never mind,” pausing the “reciprocal tariffs” for 90 days, except for China and 10% for everyone else. Huh?

If you’re confused, you’re also not alone. But as I said on Monday after noting that RUMORS of him ‘pausing’ the tariffs caused the stock market to rebound temporarily, letting us know that there is a way to reverse the huge crash, there was a way to turn it around. I guess he was listening.

But in the next breath, he said to stand by for huge tariffs on pharmaceuticals. (Where’s that barf bag?)

Today, we’re joined by our pal Driftglass, one of the OG progressive bloggers who’s still churning it out at driftglass.blogspot.com and co-hosting the Professional Left Podcast with his wonderful wife Bluegal Fran.

**Technical postscript: My internet went out briefly and I was unable to re-connect on YouTube. But you can still hear the entire show by getting the podcast wherever you get your podcasts, or directly from nicolesandler.com/4-9-25. Or subscribe to my substack (paid or free) and get it delivered to your inbox every day… nicolesandler.substack.com

Here’s the first 30 minutes or so of today’s show via YouTube. For the rest of it, see above or click the player up top!